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| Author: | geezer466 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Soon Now |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16987644 Quote: Greece bailout: Lucas Papademos warns of default chaos The other Eurozone members are insisting on ever more impossible condition to trigger the next payments towards bailout 2. They have in effect decided that Greece will default and when it does it will be a Greek decision blamed on the Greek government. |
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| Author: | Kremmen [ Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soon Now |
Greece knows it's up the creek and needs help and yet the citizens still parade on the streets telling the Gov to keep on spending, madness ! |
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| Author: | Westonman [ Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soon Now |
Greece is in the mess it is largely because of irresponsible socialism that has promulgated the message that it is possible to 'share all the social benefits' without actually earning them. The 'thinkers and planners' behind the EU project have deliberately created this unsustainable mess knowing that the day of reckoning would eventually arrive. A similar situation exists in the UK, where irresponsible socialism has created a benefits system that is insane, unjust, and as equally unsustainable as that of Greece. The questions that are frequently asked are: Why are we so heavily taxed? Where is all the money going? And, how can people without a visible and meaningful source of earned income enjoy such high standards of living? This Government page http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAnd ... /DG_174787 does not provide all the answers, but is does help explain where an awful lot of taxpayers' money is going. An example of the injustice of the system is; a pensioner with an income that is a little above the level of the State Pension, and maybe with some frugal savings acquired over a working life-time, will be paying income tax on their relatively low level of income. At the same time, there are many other people that are receiving taxpayer funded State benefits that actually dwarf the taxable incomes of other people who are paying income tax, and who are not receiving State benefits. The UK economy is loaded down with debt, much like that of Greece, only here there is now some over-due, meagre and half-hearted political attempt to partly correct some of the economic insanity that has brought us to our current national indebtedness. This story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16992380 is the latest example of political objections from the Left at any attempt to correct the insanity of the political past: Quote: In a speech to shopworkers' union Usdaw later, shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Rachel Reeves will describe the party's findings as a "tax credits bombshell". It appears that the Left is determined to drive the UK into the same distress that Greece is now experiencing. The Left likes to complain about, and resist, any corrective action, whilst offering NO alternative realistic suggestions to the economic insanity that has brought us to where we are. Ahead of that she told the BBC it had taken Labour some time to go through the figures and talk to people who would be affected by the changes. She said: "So many families have no idea this is coming. "It's now just a few weeks away until families risk losing up to £4,000 worth of income It is very difficult NOT to conclude that national bankruptcy is the aim of the behind-the scenes socialist planners. What isn't too clear yet; is what the 'planners' have in mind for AFTER national bankruptcy. |
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| Author: | Jon [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soon Now |
I think we have a fair idea... we've been talking about it on here for years now, even before all this blew up. |
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| Author: | jim [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soon Now |
Go the Dutch - but why wait until 2013? The Netherlands, where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, isscrapping multiculturalism: The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands. A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: "The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society. The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands... The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law. The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner; "It is not the government's job to integrate immigrants." (How bloody true). The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.(Why wait 15 months?) Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realised - maybe too late - that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself. Australia's future may well be read here. READERS NOTE: Muslim immigrants leave their countries of birth because of civil and political unrest "CREATED BY THE VERY NATURE OF THEIR CULTURE." Countries like Holland and Australia have an established way of life that actually works, so why embrace the unworkable? If Muslims do not wish to accept another culture, the answer is simple; "STAY WHERE YOU ARE!!" This gives a whole new meaning to the term; 'Dutch Courage' - Unfortunately Australian politicians don't have the ... Guts to do the same. There's a whole lot of truth here!!!! ELECTION 2013 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep, Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's Take a Stand!!! Gillard: Gone! Borders: Closed! Language: English! Law:Obey Australian Law Culture: Australian Constitution, is the Bill of Rights! Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming!!! Got this and it makes sense otherwise there will be no winners and losers, just losers. |
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